Improving the Eagle Rock Music Festival: An Investigation

This year’s festival is a vast improvement over 2011, but some problems remain.

Every year after the Eagle Rock Music Festival, the , sends a form letter to individuals, businesses, organizations and donors that sponsored or hosted the event. Besides serving as a note of thanks, the letter specifically asks for any feedback aimed at making improvements to the coming year’s festival.

Of the roughly 120 letters sent out last month following the 14th Annual Eagle Rock Music Festival, only one evoked a response—and that, too, from an entrepreneur who has been in Eagle Rock for all of three months, according to Center for the Arts Development Director Renée Dominique.

Of course, that doesn't mean Eagle Rockers have no constructive criticism—or complaints—about what is widely acknowledged to be L.A.’s premier music festival. On the contrary, according to Dominique, “we get a lot of feedback” from other channels and “we try to make a lot of adjustments and improvements.”

Eagle Rock Patch recently asked Dominique and CFAER Director of Events Brian Martinez how they felt this year’s festival compared to last year’s event—and what they think of certain complaints that some businesses had.

Sounder Structure?

By all accounts, this year’s festival was clearly safer, more maneuverable and family-oriented than in previous years. An estimated 75,000 to 80,000 people attended the festival, according to Martinez and Dominique, much less than the top estimate of some 100,000 people last year.

“One of the comments we had for the previous year was that there were too many people—lot of youth from out of the community, and that you couldn’t quite get through the crowds because they were so thick,” said Dominique.

To help spread out the crowds, the Center intentionally programmed the festival to start at 2 p.m.—two hours earlier than in 2011—so that families had more time and space to enjoy the festival. An earlier start would also allow crowds to circulate more and there wouldn’t be a lot of people at any one given time, Dominique explained.

There was also some direct enforcement aimed at making the festival less of a free for all. “In the previous year we saw people coming in with beer on their shoulders,” said Dominique. “This year we tried to create a better infrastructure so that the people who came knew that they had to respect the community. We put up codes of conduct and had more entrances.”

Camilo’s Concerns

Still, the crush of crowds was palpable in certain areas of the festival. At Camilo’s California Bistro, for example, the police had to be called to disperse a crowd that was disrupting the restaurant’s sidewalk dining.

“It was a madhouse,” recalls Amelia Gonzalez, who runs the restaurant along with her husband Camilo. “People were dining outside and the crowds were falling over them. The Council member [José Huizar] was here with his staff and they were the ones who called the police.”

Dominique acknowledges that “a couple of things” went wrong. First, in placing a stage near Camilo’s, the festival’s logistics team didn’t take into account the fact that the restaurant would have outdoor dining, said Dominique. Second, a lot of festivalgoers came just to listen to just one (hip hop) band—Pharcyde—“and that created a kind of bottleneck.”

At one point, according to Camilo’s Gonzalez, the music was so loud that the restaurant’s windows began to shake. “Last year I had to go out and tell Renée to turn the volume down because the windows were shaking,” she said. “This year I couldn't tell anyone because they had a fence and there was nobody to talk to.” Added Gonzalez: “I think they really need to hire someone who knows festival layout.”

The View From Taco Spot

Unlike Gonzalez, the co-owner of Taco Spot, Joshua Lewis, didn’t have a problem with crowds or the noise. “Our problem was with the early start for family time,” he said. “Because the festival started earlier, a lot of people left before dinner time.”

According to Dominique and Martinez, however, the early start to the festival ensured that many people left after a few hours—which helped streamline the crowds—and that they also grabbed an early dinner.

During last year’s festival, a lot of people complained that restaurants ran out of food and that the lines outside eateries were too long. “So we brought in some more food trucks and dispersed them—there was a food court down at the Farmers Market and we had food trucks on the other end,” said Dominique, adding: “And we tried to space them so they weren’t in direct competition with the restaurants.”

To some restaurant owners, food trucks are a bad idea because they compete with fast food restaurants. “They say they are promoting the community and yet they bring all these food trucks that compete with fast food restaurants,” said Gonzalez. “I walked by Lemongrass and Taco Spot at 4:30 [p.m.] and they were empty.” Added Gonzalez: “They [the festival] don't need a taco truck when they have Taco Spot and they don’t need a hamburger truck when they have Oinkster.” (According to an employee at Oinkster, business, especially the sale of beer, was brisk at the festival.)

Taco Spot’s Lewis agreed that taco trucks competed with his restaurant. “But I didn’t have a problem with that—that’s the nature of the beast,” he said. “People are going to eat where they are when they’re hungry—the last thing I want to do is complain about who can come in and support our festival.” He added, however: “It would be different if a taco truck were parked right in front of the restaurant.”

Center's Five-Man 'Army'

For Dominique and Martinez, organizing the music festival not only takes an enormous effort every year but a great deal of adjustment from past practices that proved ineffective or counterproductive.

“There are people who do appreciate it, but there are always minor complaints that stick out after the event,” said Dominique. “When you think of it, there were no arrests, no assaults, no burglaries, no auto thefts, no vandalism,” she added, referring to the 2012 festival. “There was no trash at the end of the end of the night—we spent a lot of money on a cleaning crew to clean everything up—and there wasn’t as much alcohol on the street.”

For an organization that has just less employees than most restaurant kitchens, that’s no mean achievement. “It’s just five of us, not an army,” said Martinez. “So in a way, the criticism is a kind of compliment.”

El Cid November 21, 2012 at 03:35 PM
Congratulations! Anytime you can attract crowds over 50,000, you've done your job! It's wonderful that the organization takes the time to get feedback from the Eagle Rock community. Making adjustments and improving on past practices will make 2013 Music Festival the BEST! Keep up the great work! Congrats to the music festival organization and CD 14 staff for their continued support of the festival.
Diablo November 21, 2012 at 05:53 PM
We need more "rock" bands to play the festival, like in years past. Too much of this newfangled hip hop crap is turning the event into a one-sided affair. We need musical diversity and that means Rock, Metal & Punk. And alcohol should be widely dispersed, with a glow in the dark wrist band for patrons over 21. Pot is widely accepted apparently, so we should be able to walk around with a brew. Just saying...
Andrew Hindes November 21, 2012 at 08:04 PM
I thought the festival was well-organized and security was handled well--although I did witness one assault: a bunch of guys knocked another young man down and started kicking him. It sparked a minor stampede of panicked festvalgoers. There were no cops around and I guess the victim didn't report it. Overall, I personally enjoyed the 2012 less than any of the previous ones. I didn’t experience the thrill of discovery of a great new band as I have almost every previous year, dating back to 1998 when I first moved here . And although I like electronica/hip-hop in the right environment, it seemed like there was a lot of really noisy, ill-defined “dance” music blasting that made it hard to hear the other, quieter acts at other locations. So I guess I agree with the Camillo’s folks that they need to get a handle on volume levels, particularly at that stage near Eagle Rock & Colorado.
Adam Salcedo November 21, 2012 at 09:08 PM
I agree with diablo 2013 should have a more eclectic variety of bands including rock metal and punk. Also more local eagle rock bands need to be featured cause it is of coarse the eagle rock music festival!!
peter hilton November 22, 2012 at 06:11 PM
This festival has gone off track from the original concept, and that is due to the money grabbing board that now oversees it. The original concept was for community involvement, to profile local community bands, and yes, we love others coming to our community, but like all other things, the lure of easy money corrupts, especially on the backs of the community residents? Yes, we love to expand our business, but tell that to the man that was punched and kicked at this years festival , just like the person at the Dodgers that was beaten within an inch of his life for being a fan? Where were the police and security, I'll tell you where they where , making sure the residents and participants were shaken down for the so called voluntary donation, I saw numerous people that walked away with families, when they saw the pressure to pay $10.00 per person being extracted from others in line, Money, the root of all evil, and this festival has become nothing more than a way to make money, one thing you should ask, Where does the money go? What salaries are being upgraded by the Center for The Arts as a result of this festival and the money it earns, or is the money going back into the community, that where the real investigation needs to go? I know the ERNC has asked this question and it was never answered by the festival organizers, especially when they would come begging for the $7,500 donation? Yes we need and investigation, were does the money go?
nonoise November 22, 2012 at 06:44 PM
Where does the money go? Ask DONE (Department of Neighborhood Empowerment). They keep track of all the money. Or, ask the treasurer. But you have to put it in writing to get an answer or you will not get an answer. And, your lucky to get an answer even if you put it in writing.
Marcel November 26, 2012 at 06:10 AM
Since our indoor playground business on Colorado Blvd barely breaks even Mo-Fri, we depend on the revenue from private weekend parties. The festival costs us and our employees a large amounts in lost income. If you multiply that by the four festivals we have had since our location opened, our loss can be considered substantial. And it is obvious that the festival is here to stay, putting a serious dent in future revenues. As a veteran music instructor and the owner of a professional recording studio (Eagle Rock Studios), I obviously welcome live music events. I also appreciate anything that draws positive attention to our great neighborhood. However, the festival's recent emphasis on DJ's and hip hop artists performing over pre-recorded music during prime hours on the main stages seems to mostly draw teenagers, not exactly a demographic that patronizes local businesses outside of the event. It seemed to me that food trucks and booths add a serious distraction that takes away from the potential exposure local businesses could gain from the festival... (continued below)
Marcel November 26, 2012 at 06:14 AM
Ideally, I would like to see the festival hosted near the Eagle Rock Rec Center. While I'm sure the organizers have more insight into the feasibility of that idea, a park setting such as FYF's to me seems more attractive and easier to manage. On a side note, if the festival's selection of performers appealed to a more mature, eclectic crowd (early Sunset Junction or Jazz festivals come to mind), I am certain a larger share of visitors, while perhaps smaller in overall numbers, would be willing to contribute a $10 donation, while making for a more enjoyable and positive experience. I do respect the valiant effort the ERMF team put into organizing such a large-scale event in the face of regulations and community concerns, all without making profitability the driving force. I simply believe that they cannot assume that brick and mortar businesses like ours should have to shoulder the substantial costs and hassles created by an event like the ERMF.
nonoise November 26, 2012 at 04:33 PM
A donation is an amount asked for. It can not be forced. If it is forced, call the IRS. It is a violation of the 503b status. No one can be turned away for lack of a donation. And, shame on those that pressured people that could not afford their "donation". Shame, shame, shame. All are invited regardless of donation or not.
nonoise November 26, 2012 at 04:35 PM
If the city cannot afford a concert then shut it down or have a business do it to make some money and pay the city rent for the use of a city park or city street ( that is also a donation). It is wrong to exclude the community. The concert is meant to serve and unite the community, not divide it.


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